Got to love open source. Just wish some people in this thread would release their tool...Prez wrote:B3 is open source, shouldn't be too hard to look it up.
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TBH, the only good tools I see is B3, BTM (although issues, dev is working on it), and possibly sCon. sCon would take the cake if it was released...HarryNutz wrote:Meh... a lot of various tools have been released but a lot of them also went the way of the trash bin. Those still around are few that are still actually being updated and developed... and of those few there arent many that have a ton of abilities... not to say they aren't good, just some are lacking and force you to use multiple tools.
One maybe two weeks tops and we should be in a position to launch. We have just invested in another server to meet demand and will be setting that up and finishing off major bug fixes this week. Will then work on some of the better suggestions before launch.MordyT wrote: TBH, the only good tools I see is B3, BTM (although issues, dev is working on it), and possibly sCon. sCon would take the cake if it was released...
As for a "web rcon" for b3, try echelon.HarryNutz wrote:My experience so far...
B3 - From what I have heard is very stable and offers a ton of features. A few reasons I haven't tried is because 1. Its seems a bit OVER complicated. 2. All my Admins use WebRcon to boot someone from the server if its full as I dont like the way Reserved Slots work... B3 (unless Im wrong and someone can correct me) does not have any kind of login type web rcon tool.
I see I wasn't clear... I meant released as in released to the public for free like the other tools.sCon wrote:One maybe two weeks tops and we should be in a position to launch. We have just invested in another server to meet demand and will be setting that up and finishing off major bug fixes this week. Will then work on some of the better suggestions before launch.MordyT wrote: TBH, the only good tools I see is B3, BTM (although issues, dev is working on it), and possibly sCon. sCon would take the cake if it was released...
I would however suggest you register on the forums because I am not allowed to advertise here once we launch.
Had a feeling that was what you mean but I was being optomistic . It's not going to happen and I think anyone that uses the tool can appreciate why. Same argument applies, people are happy to pay for a TS server even though they can quite easily host it themselves BUT for the sake of £3 a month, why botherMordyT wrote: I see I wasn't clear... I meant released as in released to the public for free like the other tools.
Having it cost money (I know, hosting, etc.) makes it drop to the bottom of the book for me. If you are going to claim hosting costs, then let us self host.
Sorta like dedicated server files...
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First off, kudos for writing such a long well thought out post. Sorry my reply will be much shorter.HarryNutz wrote:People are always hesitant and if they have their own hosting solution then of course they would prefer to not spend the extra couple of dollars... which thats exactly what it amounts too... a few dollars. I have my own hosting solution and I use WebRcon which is cool and a half way decent tool, gives me little to almost no troubles at all, but it just lacks a lot of other functionality that I'm looking for.
B3 is over complicated to even setup so if I was to choose that (which I was looking into prior to sCon's release) I would have gone with the premium hosting they have listed on their site...
BTM has no option at all for real hosting (or at least without your own VPN) or running it from your own computer which has to stay on 24/7 (no thanks), so I chose to have that hosted as well.
sCon is seriously gearing up to be thee best of all the worlds combined... take all the features of WebRcon, then mix in all the features of BTM and then toss in a majority of the features of B3, then sprinkle in some more features and what does that make? sCon... the "Smörgåsbord" of Rcon Tools.
And personally I think it makes more sense to keep the tool private and hosted the way it's being done now. All that releasing it would do, is create more headaches in the long run for the developers as they have already vested a lot of time and effort in making it stable within the environment they currently use. Toss it out there for everyone to use and next thing ya know the devs are getting bombarded from all different directions for support across a multitude of systems and setups and its a recipe for disaster.
Look at the current affairs of PC titles and we all know why us PC'ers get the short end of the Port Stick... because its easier for developers to mass produce games on consoles since they all use the "same" hardware and its much more difficult to deal with the vast amount of PC hardware, software and setups.
Keeping sCon private and self hosted means "one" thing... it will always be more stable... it will make life easier on the developers... which means the developers will have more time on their hands to continue improving on its functionality... which ends up being a better product for us Admins in the long run.